1 00:00:01,090 --> 00:00:18,630 [Music] 2 00:00:24,390 --> 00:00:21,830 hello everyone i am marina jurica and 3 00:00:27,269 --> 00:00:24,400 welcome to nasa's jet propulsion 4 00:00:29,269 --> 00:00:27,279 laboratory today is a very special day 5 00:00:32,150 --> 00:00:29,279 as we celebrate the legacy of the 6 00:00:34,229 --> 00:00:32,160 spitzer space telescope spitzer is a 7 00:00:36,950 --> 00:00:34,239 telescope that has observed things in 8 00:00:39,430 --> 00:00:36,960 our own solar system and far beyond 9 00:00:42,150 --> 00:00:39,440 after over 16 years of incredible 10 00:00:44,790 --> 00:00:42,160 discoveries which impacted how we see 11 00:00:47,670 --> 00:00:44,800 the universe the world will continue to 12 00:00:50,709 --> 00:00:47,680 benefit from its monumental impact for 13 00:00:52,470 --> 00:00:50,719 many years to come to grasp the wonders 14 00:00:55,029 --> 00:00:52,480 of the cosmos and understand their 15 00:00:58,869 --> 00:00:55,039 variety and beauty nasa launched its 16 00:01:01,590 --> 00:00:58,879 four great observatories hubble chandra 17 00:01:04,229 --> 00:01:01,600 compton and spitzer who apart and 18 00:01:06,870 --> 00:01:04,239 together gave us an extensive look into 19 00:01:08,950 --> 00:01:06,880 places we only dreamed of spitzer 20 00:01:11,109 --> 00:01:08,960 observes in the infrared wavelength 21 00:01:13,590 --> 00:01:11,119 giving it no shortage of things to look 22 00:01:15,670 --> 00:01:13,600 at while a whole new universe was 23 00:01:17,749 --> 00:01:15,680 unveiled throughout the program we are 24 00:01:19,830 --> 00:01:17,759 inviting everyone to ask questions of 25 00:01:22,149 --> 00:01:19,840 our panelists if you are a member of the 26 00:01:25,030 --> 00:01:22,159 media on our phone lines just make sure 27 00:01:27,510 --> 00:01:25,040 that you press star one and if you are a 28 00:01:29,830 --> 00:01:27,520 member of social media make sure you use 29 00:01:31,350 --> 00:01:29,840 the hashtag ask 30 00:01:36,069 --> 00:01:31,360 nasa 31 00:01:38,149 --> 00:01:36,079 the head of astrophysics paul hertz 32 00:01:40,390 --> 00:01:38,159 welcome paul and thank you so much for 33 00:01:44,469 --> 00:01:40,400 helping us celebrate the legacy 34 00:01:46,389 --> 00:01:44,479 of this amazing telescope 35 00:01:48,310 --> 00:01:46,399 well marina it's my pleasure to be here 36 00:01:50,389 --> 00:01:48,320 today 37 00:01:52,550 --> 00:01:50,399 paul tell us why we are celebrating here 38 00:01:55,270 --> 00:01:52,560 today and what spitzer has meant to the 39 00:01:58,310 --> 00:01:55,280 world 40 00:02:00,069 --> 00:01:58,320 well at nasa we're interested in asking 41 00:02:02,709 --> 00:02:00,079 answering the big questions in 42 00:02:03,990 --> 00:02:02,719 astrophysics how did the universe begin 43 00:02:06,310 --> 00:02:04,000 and evolve 44 00:02:09,190 --> 00:02:06,320 how did the familiar night sky full of 45 00:02:11,510 --> 00:02:09,200 galaxies stars and planets come to be 46 00:02:15,030 --> 00:02:11,520 where did the elements of life and life 47 00:02:17,670 --> 00:02:15,040 itself come from and are we alone 48 00:02:19,670 --> 00:02:17,680 now these are hard questions so we need 49 00:02:21,910 --> 00:02:19,680 to use all the evidence that the 50 00:02:23,830 --> 00:02:21,920 universe provides us to help us answer 51 00:02:27,430 --> 00:02:23,840 them and that means observing the 52 00:02:29,990 --> 00:02:27,440 universe in every kind of light there is 53 00:02:32,309 --> 00:02:30,000 with the but the uh with in every kind 54 00:02:33,910 --> 00:02:32,319 of light there is not just the light 55 00:02:36,630 --> 00:02:33,920 that gets through the earth's atmosphere 56 00:02:39,589 --> 00:02:36,640 and can be perceived by our eyes 57 00:02:42,150 --> 00:02:39,599 and with since nasa goes into space we 58 00:02:44,229 --> 00:02:42,160 can put space telescopes above the 59 00:02:45,589 --> 00:02:44,239 blurring and obscuring of the earth's 60 00:02:48,710 --> 00:02:45,599 atmosphere 61 00:02:50,949 --> 00:02:48,720 back in the 1970s nasa began a program 62 00:02:53,190 --> 00:02:50,959 of great observatories 63 00:02:55,270 --> 00:02:53,200 the first of the great observatories was 64 00:02:57,270 --> 00:02:55,280 the hubble space telescope which 65 00:02:58,550 --> 00:02:57,280 observes the universe in the optical and 66 00:03:00,630 --> 00:02:58,560 ultraviolet 67 00:03:03,190 --> 00:03:00,640 hubble will be celebrating its 30th 68 00:03:05,350 --> 00:03:03,200 anniversary later this year 69 00:03:08,070 --> 00:03:05,360 the next great observatory was the 70 00:03:10,309 --> 00:03:08,080 compton gamma-ray observatory compton 71 00:03:12,070 --> 00:03:10,319 observed the universe in gamma rays and 72 00:03:14,229 --> 00:03:12,080 it completed its science mission in the 73 00:03:17,750 --> 00:03:14,239 year 2000 74 00:03:19,670 --> 00:03:17,760 the chandra x-ray observatory is nasa's 75 00:03:21,750 --> 00:03:19,680 third great observatory observing the 76 00:03:23,990 --> 00:03:21,760 universe in x-rays 77 00:03:26,149 --> 00:03:24,000 chandra celebrated its 20th anniversary 78 00:03:28,630 --> 00:03:26,159 in orbit last year 79 00:03:31,750 --> 00:03:28,640 nasa's fourth great observatory is the 80 00:03:33,430 --> 00:03:31,760 spitzer space telescope our infrared 81 00:03:35,430 --> 00:03:33,440 great observatory 82 00:03:39,270 --> 00:03:35,440 the spitzer space telescope will be 83 00:03:40,470 --> 00:03:39,280 completing its 16-year mission next week 84 00:03:43,750 --> 00:03:40,480 and we're here 85 00:03:46,149 --> 00:03:43,760 to celebrate and discuss the legacy that 86 00:03:48,710 --> 00:03:46,159 spitzer has left for us how it has 87 00:03:52,869 --> 00:03:48,720 changed our views of our solar system of 88 00:03:55,270 --> 00:03:52,879 our galaxy and of the universe itself 89 00:03:57,589 --> 00:03:55,280 thank you so much paul and what a legacy 90 00:03:59,270 --> 00:03:57,599 it does leave behind we will bring paul 91 00:04:00,789 --> 00:03:59,280 back a little later in the program to 92 00:04:03,190 --> 00:04:00,799 talk about how spitzer will be a 93 00:04:05,670 --> 00:04:03,200 pathfinder for both scientists and 94 00:04:12,229 --> 00:04:05,680 future missions but for now let's take a 95 00:04:15,670 --> 00:04:13,509 we have ignition 96 00:04:18,789 --> 00:04:15,680 the rocket launches 97 00:04:21,670 --> 00:04:18,799 it's thrusting out flames and you're 98 00:04:23,430 --> 00:04:21,680 watching and you have all those emotions 99 00:04:28,390 --> 00:04:23,440 and the rocket goes along on this 100 00:04:35,830 --> 00:04:31,430 the spitzer space telescope is a member 101 00:04:38,469 --> 00:04:35,840 of nasa's family of great observatories 102 00:04:42,629 --> 00:04:38,479 spitzer is the infrared member of this 103 00:04:47,270 --> 00:04:44,390 spitzer has unveiled the infrared 104 00:04:49,370 --> 00:04:47,280 universe it has enabled humans to see 105 00:04:50,629 --> 00:04:49,380 what our eyes could not see 106 00:04:52,629 --> 00:04:50,639 [Music] 107 00:04:56,950 --> 00:04:52,639 we see a whole new side to the universe 108 00:05:02,230 --> 00:05:00,150 you can peer inside of clouds of dust to 109 00:05:04,870 --> 00:05:02,240 see the baby stars called protostars 110 00:05:10,469 --> 00:05:07,909 it let us see into more distant galaxies 111 00:05:12,710 --> 00:05:10,479 and see how the patterns of dust tell us 112 00:05:14,629 --> 00:05:12,720 about the emotions of gas and the 113 00:05:15,909 --> 00:05:14,639 dynamics of gravity that operate in 114 00:05:18,150 --> 00:05:15,919 these objects 115 00:05:20,950 --> 00:05:18,160 all of a sudden we could create these 116 00:05:22,469 --> 00:05:20,960 vast panoramas at incredibly sharp 117 00:05:24,550 --> 00:05:22,479 resolutions that we'd never been able to 118 00:05:26,390 --> 00:05:24,560 do before and as a result 119 00:05:28,710 --> 00:05:26,400 everything that was familiar in the sky 120 00:05:30,870 --> 00:05:28,720 every nebula that we're used to seeing 121 00:05:32,629 --> 00:05:30,880 invisible light images from the ground 122 00:05:34,710 --> 00:05:32,639 things from hubble they became 123 00:05:36,870 --> 00:05:34,720 completely different when seen through 124 00:05:39,909 --> 00:05:36,880 the infrared eyes of spitzer 125 00:05:42,870 --> 00:05:39,919 it was this combination of a scientific 126 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:42,880 insight that itself was just stunningly 127 00:05:47,189 --> 00:05:45,370 beautiful at the same time 128 00:05:49,110 --> 00:05:47,199 [Music] 129 00:05:51,430 --> 00:05:49,120 the biggest surprise in terms of what 130 00:05:53,110 --> 00:05:51,440 was revealed with spitzer is its ability 131 00:05:57,029 --> 00:05:53,120 to characterize 132 00:05:59,350 --> 00:05:57,039 exoplanets so planets around other stars 133 00:06:01,430 --> 00:05:59,360 most notably we identified a system 134 00:06:03,749 --> 00:06:01,440 called trappist-1 which has 135 00:06:06,710 --> 00:06:03,759 seven earth-sized planets sort of 136 00:06:09,430 --> 00:06:06,720 snuggling up to what's a very cool 137 00:06:10,710 --> 00:06:09,440 star and of those planets 138 00:06:13,110 --> 00:06:10,720 three of them at least are in the 139 00:06:15,590 --> 00:06:13,120 habitable zone when spitzer launched 140 00:06:19,110 --> 00:06:15,600 exoplanet science was absolutely not 141 00:06:20,870 --> 00:06:19,120 part of the science portfolio we were 142 00:06:22,390 --> 00:06:20,880 offering for spitzer because it wasn't 143 00:06:24,629 --> 00:06:22,400 considered to be sensitive enough to do 144 00:06:27,189 --> 00:06:24,639 that kind of observations but while in 145 00:06:28,790 --> 00:06:27,199 flight astronomers became clever about 146 00:06:30,629 --> 00:06:28,800 how they could use it engineers became 147 00:06:32,629 --> 00:06:30,639 very clever about how we could repurpose 148 00:06:35,110 --> 00:06:32,639 spitzer and exoplanet science has 149 00:06:36,950 --> 00:06:35,120 actually become one of the core science 150 00:06:39,430 --> 00:06:36,960 projects of spitzer since then the 151 00:06:41,350 --> 00:06:39,440 google doodle that day 152 00:06:43,189 --> 00:06:41,360 which was trappist-1 153 00:06:45,350 --> 00:06:43,199 is what kind of finished me off on a 154 00:06:48,870 --> 00:06:45,360 glorious day 155 00:06:51,189 --> 00:06:48,880 when your adult children point out that 156 00:06:54,420 --> 00:06:51,199 you know my mom works on that telescope 157 00:06:56,550 --> 00:06:54,430 you know that's that's very rewarding 158 00:06:57,909 --> 00:06:56,560 [Music] 159 00:07:00,150 --> 00:06:57,919 spitzer space telescope is a 160 00:07:02,150 --> 00:07:00,160 technological marvel i never had any 161 00:07:04,550 --> 00:07:02,160 conception that we'd be going for 16 162 00:07:06,790 --> 00:07:04,560 years the little machine that could go 163 00:07:09,430 --> 00:07:06,800 beyond its primary design 164 00:07:10,710 --> 00:07:09,440 longevity of the mission is a direct 165 00:07:11,749 --> 00:07:10,720 result 166 00:07:14,390 --> 00:07:11,759 of the 167 00:07:16,950 --> 00:07:14,400 engineers and scientists and people that 168 00:07:19,430 --> 00:07:16,960 have supported the mission in a place 169 00:07:22,070 --> 00:07:19,440 that dares mighty things 170 00:07:23,749 --> 00:07:22,080 you can do it together 171 00:07:27,029 --> 00:07:23,759 and so 172 00:07:31,510 --> 00:07:27,039 when you have that kind of union i think 173 00:07:33,909 --> 00:07:31,520 what happens is magic i'm hoping spitzer 174 00:07:37,670 --> 00:07:33,919 will be remembered 175 00:07:40,629 --> 00:07:37,680 as in a really amazing uh 176 00:07:43,430 --> 00:07:40,639 scientific gift and that it allowed us 177 00:07:46,469 --> 00:07:43,440 to kind of transform our understanding 178 00:07:49,029 --> 00:07:46,479 of some very important aspects of 179 00:07:51,189 --> 00:07:49,039 astronomy and i think spitzer's been 180 00:07:53,430 --> 00:07:51,199 integral to all that 181 00:07:56,390 --> 00:07:53,440 we have a huge archive that is waiting 182 00:07:57,830 --> 00:07:56,400 to be mined and it's its revelations 183 00:08:00,710 --> 00:07:57,840 already have been tremendous and 184 00:08:03,650 --> 00:08:00,720 revolutionary that only time will tell 185 00:08:15,990 --> 00:08:03,660 what is spitzer's greatest legacy 186 00:08:20,869 --> 00:08:18,309 let me now introduce you to joseph hunt 187 00:08:22,950 --> 00:08:20,879 spitzer space telescope project manager 188 00:08:25,029 --> 00:08:22,960 and suzanne dodd a former project 189 00:08:28,070 --> 00:08:25,039 manager for the mission welcome and 190 00:08:30,309 --> 00:08:28,080 thank you for joining us here today 191 00:08:32,949 --> 00:08:30,319 so suzanne let me 192 00:08:35,589 --> 00:08:32,959 ask you about spitzer's four great 193 00:08:37,750 --> 00:08:35,599 observatories and what part it plays in 194 00:08:40,790 --> 00:08:37,760 those four great observatories and what 195 00:08:43,269 --> 00:08:40,800 sets spitzer apart certainly so as paul 196 00:08:46,150 --> 00:08:43,279 mentioned spitzer is part of nasa's 197 00:08:48,870 --> 00:08:46,160 great observatory program the four grade 198 00:08:51,670 --> 00:08:48,880 observatories and spitzer measures in 199 00:08:54,310 --> 00:08:51,680 infrared light so infrared light is a 200 00:08:55,829 --> 00:08:54,320 sense census heat of coming off of 201 00:08:58,310 --> 00:08:55,839 objects 202 00:09:00,470 --> 00:08:58,320 it's similar to night vision goggles if 203 00:09:02,949 --> 00:09:00,480 you're familiar with how those work 204 00:09:05,509 --> 00:09:02,959 and the importance of infrared light 205 00:09:09,190 --> 00:09:05,519 again is it can it senses heat so it can 206 00:09:10,310 --> 00:09:09,200 see through dusty clouds and and it can 207 00:09:11,590 --> 00:09:10,320 see through 208 00:09:13,350 --> 00:09:11,600 uh 209 00:09:15,670 --> 00:09:13,360 the dust that that 210 00:09:17,990 --> 00:09:15,680 is in an image say from hubble 211 00:09:21,509 --> 00:09:18,000 uh spitzer can see through that to see 212 00:09:24,389 --> 00:09:21,519 star-forming reasons to see uh 213 00:09:27,990 --> 00:09:24,399 uh forming and merging 214 00:09:30,949 --> 00:09:28,000 and just a whole cornucopia of of 215 00:09:33,430 --> 00:09:30,959 objects in space that are not visible to 216 00:09:35,269 --> 00:09:33,440 eye our eyes in the optical but are 217 00:09:37,910 --> 00:09:35,279 visible in infrared 218 00:09:39,750 --> 00:09:37,920 and one of the unique things about 219 00:09:42,230 --> 00:09:39,760 spitzer that makes this all possible is 220 00:09:43,829 --> 00:09:42,240 its orbit so spencer was launched in 221 00:09:46,790 --> 00:09:43,839 2003 222 00:09:50,070 --> 00:09:46,800 and it's in a very unique earth trailing 223 00:09:53,509 --> 00:09:50,080 orbit so what that means is that spitzer 224 00:09:55,750 --> 00:09:53,519 is launched into the same 225 00:09:58,070 --> 00:09:55,760 orbit around the sun that our earth is 226 00:10:00,870 --> 00:09:58,080 but it trails away 227 00:10:02,630 --> 00:10:00,880 from the earth slowly so it's circling 228 00:10:05,110 --> 00:10:02,640 the earth falling 229 00:10:07,670 --> 00:10:05,120 excuse me it's circling the sun falling 230 00:10:10,550 --> 00:10:07,680 behind the earth and i have this little 231 00:10:13,269 --> 00:10:10,560 model here and just to to show you this 232 00:10:15,509 --> 00:10:13,279 uh the earth would be talking to and 233 00:10:17,350 --> 00:10:15,519 from the high gain antenna on the bottom 234 00:10:19,269 --> 00:10:17,360 and then the solar panel is always 235 00:10:21,910 --> 00:10:19,279 pointing at the sun so it's coming 236 00:10:24,150 --> 00:10:21,920 around it's leaving the earth but we get 237 00:10:26,710 --> 00:10:24,160 we get our power from the solar panel 238 00:10:28,790 --> 00:10:26,720 and then we communicate with this uh 239 00:10:30,949 --> 00:10:28,800 high gain antenna on the bottom 240 00:10:34,310 --> 00:10:30,959 so it's a it's a very unique orbit and 241 00:10:36,310 --> 00:10:34,320 it's unique because it's drifting from 242 00:10:38,870 --> 00:10:36,320 the earth and the moon so it's not 243 00:10:41,190 --> 00:10:38,880 getting the infrared radiation that the 244 00:10:44,069 --> 00:10:41,200 earth and the moon system create and 245 00:10:45,430 --> 00:10:44,079 it's also up above our atmosphere it 246 00:10:47,829 --> 00:10:45,440 would take you would have to have a 247 00:10:49,829 --> 00:10:47,839 telescope on the ground 10 times as big 248 00:10:52,150 --> 00:10:49,839 as spitzer to get the same quality data 249 00:10:54,230 --> 00:10:52,160 that spitzer gets from being above our 250 00:10:56,550 --> 00:10:54,240 atmosphere here at earth and that's what 251 00:10:59,829 --> 00:10:56,560 makes it so unique and so special for 252 00:11:02,470 --> 00:10:59,839 sure and welcome joseph how's the team 253 00:11:04,550 --> 00:11:02,480 feeling in anticipation of the big day 254 00:11:07,509 --> 00:11:04,560 next thursday well working with the 255 00:11:10,389 --> 00:11:07,519 spitzer team in general they're always 256 00:11:12,870 --> 00:11:10,399 excited about any of the activities that 257 00:11:15,430 --> 00:11:12,880 they have to pull together for the next 258 00:11:17,590 --> 00:11:15,440 great science observation and now 259 00:11:20,069 --> 00:11:17,600 planning for the end of mission i think 260 00:11:23,990 --> 00:11:20,079 this team stays focused all the time 261 00:11:26,389 --> 00:11:24,000 even though the emotions anxiety things 262 00:11:29,590 --> 00:11:26,399 that could attribute to people 263 00:11:30,710 --> 00:11:29,600 getting maybe a little sad uh this may 264 00:11:32,949 --> 00:11:30,720 be there 265 00:11:35,190 --> 00:11:32,959 someplace but i think this again this 266 00:11:36,870 --> 00:11:35,200 team stays so focused and one of the 267 00:11:39,190 --> 00:11:36,880 things that i must 268 00:11:41,350 --> 00:11:39,200 acknowledge is that when you have a team 269 00:11:43,990 --> 00:11:41,360 that's so distributed in different 270 00:11:46,230 --> 00:11:44,000 locations all of the things that paul 271 00:11:48,069 --> 00:11:46,240 and both susie has mentioned would never 272 00:11:50,389 --> 00:11:48,079 be possible without 273 00:11:53,750 --> 00:11:50,399 thousands i would say of people doing 274 00:11:56,310 --> 00:11:53,760 multiple things so you have to be proud 275 00:11:59,190 --> 00:11:56,320 right when you look back and say look at 276 00:12:01,590 --> 00:11:59,200 the team that's operating spitzer look 277 00:12:03,670 --> 00:12:01,600 at the team that's contributing to 278 00:12:06,550 --> 00:12:03,680 having all of this great science and the 279 00:12:08,550 --> 00:12:06,560 spitzer team has so much to be proud of 280 00:12:11,430 --> 00:12:08,560 that's for sure and you've been with 281 00:12:14,710 --> 00:12:11,440 this mission since before it launched 282 00:12:16,790 --> 00:12:14,720 and so after the last 18 years what do 283 00:12:19,030 --> 00:12:16,800 you think that the spitzer team as a 284 00:12:21,990 --> 00:12:19,040 whole will be most proud of 285 00:12:24,629 --> 00:12:22,000 well marina one thing i think that 286 00:12:27,110 --> 00:12:24,639 anyone would be proud of but mostly when 287 00:12:29,030 --> 00:12:27,120 you say the team is 288 00:12:31,269 --> 00:12:29,040 a lot of our team members we've had 289 00:12:34,150 --> 00:12:31,279 these new families that's been created 290 00:12:37,030 --> 00:12:34,160 over the life of a mission of 16 years 291 00:12:38,870 --> 00:12:37,040 long and now some of the 292 00:12:41,190 --> 00:12:38,880 members of the team are showing their 293 00:12:43,509 --> 00:12:41,200 kids some of the images that's coming 294 00:12:45,670 --> 00:12:43,519 down from spitzer but not just their 295 00:12:46,790 --> 00:12:45,680 kids we're sharing the information with 296 00:12:49,910 --> 00:12:46,800 schools 297 00:12:52,389 --> 00:12:49,920 and others right and to be able to say 298 00:12:55,030 --> 00:12:52,399 i'm a part of that new science that's 299 00:12:57,030 --> 00:12:55,040 coming down i think anyone within a team 300 00:12:59,190 --> 00:12:57,040 will be just more than proud because 301 00:13:00,949 --> 00:12:59,200 again the team is what makes the science 302 00:13:02,949 --> 00:13:00,959 matter that's so true and for 303 00:13:04,790 --> 00:13:02,959 generations to come they'll be able to 304 00:13:08,310 --> 00:13:04,800 enjoy what spitzer has accomplished and 305 00:13:10,389 --> 00:13:08,320 susie why is it so important to observe 306 00:13:14,069 --> 00:13:10,399 in this particular part of the spectrum 307 00:13:17,750 --> 00:13:14,079 well um in this in the infrared again it 308 00:13:19,750 --> 00:13:17,760 senses cool objects and so we can see 309 00:13:22,550 --> 00:13:19,760 through dust we are we're lifting the 310 00:13:24,310 --> 00:13:22,560 cosmic bale on the universe 311 00:13:26,310 --> 00:13:24,320 and there's just a cornucopia of 312 00:13:28,230 --> 00:13:26,320 astrophysics objects out there that we 313 00:13:29,269 --> 00:13:28,240 can observe there's 314 00:13:32,710 --> 00:13:29,279 again 315 00:13:35,110 --> 00:13:32,720 nebula supernova dying stars stellar 316 00:13:37,590 --> 00:13:35,120 nurseries the list goes on and on and 317 00:13:40,230 --> 00:13:37,600 it's really remarkable and 318 00:13:42,550 --> 00:13:40,240 in particular we also can discover 319 00:13:44,790 --> 00:13:42,560 things in our own solar system and one 320 00:13:48,389 --> 00:13:44,800 of my favorite uh discoveries for 321 00:13:50,150 --> 00:13:48,399 spitzer was a new ring around saturn 322 00:13:52,710 --> 00:13:50,160 and this was only made possible by 323 00:13:56,790 --> 00:13:52,720 observing it in infrared light 324 00:13:59,110 --> 00:13:56,800 the ring is 300 saturn's in diameter so 325 00:14:01,350 --> 00:13:59,120 it's gigantic 326 00:14:03,670 --> 00:14:01,360 but the particles are are tiny and and 327 00:14:05,430 --> 00:14:03,680 tenuous and diffuse and it was only the 328 00:14:07,110 --> 00:14:05,440 cool radiation given off by those 329 00:14:09,350 --> 00:14:07,120 particles in the ring 330 00:14:12,230 --> 00:14:09,360 uh that spitzer was able to detect it 331 00:14:14,790 --> 00:14:12,240 and no other uh observatory had detected 332 00:14:17,110 --> 00:14:14,800 it before so it's it's a fun discovery 333 00:14:19,110 --> 00:14:17,120 it's right in our backyard relatively uh 334 00:14:21,750 --> 00:14:19,120 in our solar system relatively speaking 335 00:14:23,189 --> 00:14:21,760 correct so it's it's one of my favorites 336 00:14:25,269 --> 00:14:23,199 that's amazing and that's right in our 337 00:14:27,030 --> 00:14:25,279 own solar system and far beyond and 338 00:14:29,509 --> 00:14:27,040 that's what's great about spitzer is 339 00:14:31,509 --> 00:14:29,519 it's discovered so much and 340 00:14:33,509 --> 00:14:31,519 beyond into our universe we'll continue 341 00:14:35,829 --> 00:14:33,519 to uh we'll continue to explore into the 342 00:14:37,910 --> 00:14:35,839 future and joseph much of the spitzer's 343 00:14:40,470 --> 00:14:37,920 team is original to the project which is 344 00:14:43,590 --> 00:14:40,480 pretty amazing do you think it's because 345 00:14:46,470 --> 00:14:43,600 spitzer was able to accomplish so much 346 00:14:49,030 --> 00:14:46,480 and it's over 16 years well when you say 347 00:14:50,790 --> 00:14:49,040 original one thing i would like to 348 00:14:51,670 --> 00:14:50,800 really point out is 349 00:14:56,470 --> 00:14:51,680 that 350 00:14:59,430 --> 00:14:56,480 have worked on spitzer 351 00:15:01,670 --> 00:14:59,440 they have a sense of ownership to the 352 00:15:04,310 --> 00:15:01,680 processes and their designs and things 353 00:15:06,870 --> 00:15:04,320 that they have developed during any 354 00:15:09,350 --> 00:15:06,880 anomaly or issues that we've had 355 00:15:11,910 --> 00:15:09,360 the teams have always had the ability to 356 00:15:14,710 --> 00:15:11,920 reach back when i say reach back meaning 357 00:15:17,269 --> 00:15:14,720 some of the heritage knowledge people 358 00:15:19,590 --> 00:15:17,279 have come forward to help us resolve 359 00:15:21,910 --> 00:15:19,600 issues that's a really great thing to 360 00:15:24,870 --> 00:15:21,920 have on any mission 361 00:15:26,949 --> 00:15:24,880 today or any day right so 362 00:15:29,110 --> 00:15:26,959 looking back over all of those many 363 00:15:30,949 --> 00:15:29,120 years i think having all of that 364 00:15:33,030 --> 00:15:30,959 heritage knowledge having the folks to 365 00:15:35,430 --> 00:15:33,040 be there available is one of the great 366 00:15:37,829 --> 00:15:35,440 attributes that has contributed to the 367 00:15:40,310 --> 00:15:37,839 success of the mission and it has been a 368 00:15:42,870 --> 00:15:40,320 success for sure and each telescope in 369 00:15:44,949 --> 00:15:42,880 the four great observatories operated in 370 00:15:47,590 --> 00:15:44,959 a different part of the electromagnetic 371 00:15:49,670 --> 00:15:47,600 spectrum what is the infrared portion of 372 00:15:52,690 --> 00:15:49,680 the spectrum that spitzer worked in and 373 00:15:56,710 --> 00:15:52,700 why does it work so well 374 00:15:58,470 --> 00:15:56,720 [Music] 375 00:15:59,670 --> 00:15:58,480 how do you make sense of something you 376 00:16:01,910 --> 00:15:59,680 can't see 377 00:16:04,389 --> 00:16:01,920 this is the electromagnetic spectrum 378 00:16:06,949 --> 00:16:04,399 where light travels in waves without it 379 00:16:09,509 --> 00:16:06,959 the world you know could not exist the 380 00:16:11,269 --> 00:16:09,519 human eye can only see this very small 381 00:16:13,749 --> 00:16:11,279 part of the spectrum called visible 382 00:16:16,150 --> 00:16:13,759 light but a whole new universe is 383 00:16:18,870 --> 00:16:16,160 revealed by looking through the infrared 384 00:16:21,670 --> 00:16:18,880 infrared light can't be seen but it can 385 00:16:24,629 --> 00:16:21,680 be felt in the form of heat every object 386 00:16:26,870 --> 00:16:24,639 whether hot or cold gives off heat 387 00:16:29,430 --> 00:16:26,880 special thermal cameras use colors to 388 00:16:31,269 --> 00:16:29,440 show us if something is warm or cold 389 00:16:33,269 --> 00:16:31,279 some objects are hot enough to show 390 00:16:35,509 --> 00:16:33,279 visible light and things that are too 391 00:16:37,829 --> 00:16:35,519 cold to be seen by the naked eye can let 392 00:16:40,389 --> 00:16:37,839 off in infrared such as your body or 393 00:16:42,710 --> 00:16:40,399 this cup of coffee ir light can be used 394 00:16:45,670 --> 00:16:42,720 in very practical ways 395 00:16:47,509 --> 00:16:45,680 longer ir waves can cook your dinner 396 00:16:50,470 --> 00:16:47,519 shorter ir waves that are used in your 397 00:16:52,629 --> 00:16:50,480 tv's remote control and firemen use ir 398 00:16:55,110 --> 00:16:52,639 cameras to see through smoke to find 399 00:16:57,590 --> 00:16:55,120 people trapped in a fire so how does 400 00:16:59,910 --> 00:16:57,600 this apply to a telescope on top of 401 00:17:01,829 --> 00:16:59,920 showing us colder objects infrared 402 00:17:04,789 --> 00:17:01,839 wavelengths can see through large 403 00:17:07,270 --> 00:17:04,799 amounts of gas and dust lifting the veil 404 00:17:09,510 --> 00:17:07,280 to what lies on the other side spitzer 405 00:17:11,990 --> 00:17:09,520 sees objects like exoplanets or the 406 00:17:14,630 --> 00:17:12,000 milky way by looking at their infrared 407 00:17:16,789 --> 00:17:14,640 glow from the heat they give off this 408 00:17:19,620 --> 00:17:16,799 gives us the ability to see what is 409 00:17:23,669 --> 00:17:19,630 beyond and that's ir in a minute 410 00:17:27,990 --> 00:17:25,990 thank you so much joseph and suzanne as 411 00:17:30,070 --> 00:17:28,000 a reminder we are inviting everyone to 412 00:17:31,750 --> 00:17:30,080 ask questions of our panelists if you 413 00:17:33,990 --> 00:17:31,760 are a member of the media on our phone 414 00:17:36,390 --> 00:17:34,000 lines press star one to be put into the 415 00:17:39,750 --> 00:17:36,400 queue and if you are on social media 416 00:17:41,909 --> 00:17:39,760 make sure you use the hashtag asknasa so 417 00:17:44,150 --> 00:17:41,919 now that we understand spitzer's role in 418 00:17:46,230 --> 00:17:44,160 the four great observatories and its 419 00:17:48,230 --> 00:17:46,240 ability to gaze into the infrared 420 00:17:51,190 --> 00:17:48,240 universe here to tell us about some of 421 00:17:53,190 --> 00:17:51,200 the amazing discoveries and science that 422 00:17:55,029 --> 00:17:53,200 came from this telescope are michael 423 00:17:57,909 --> 00:17:55,039 werner the spitzer space telescope 424 00:18:00,310 --> 00:17:57,919 project scientist and farisa morales a 425 00:18:01,990 --> 00:18:00,320 spitzer scientist welcome thank you 426 00:18:03,750 --> 00:18:02,000 marina my question marina what a 427 00:18:06,230 --> 00:18:03,760 wonderful day we are celebrating here 428 00:18:08,710 --> 00:18:06,240 today an incredible revelation about 429 00:18:10,870 --> 00:18:08,720 spitzer mike are the many observations 430 00:18:13,669 --> 00:18:10,880 and discoveries that it made that it 431 00:18:15,990 --> 00:18:13,679 wasn't originally planned to do like 432 00:18:18,070 --> 00:18:16,000 exoplanets for example now spitzer 433 00:18:21,270 --> 00:18:18,080 studied hundreds of exoplanets and was 434 00:18:24,150 --> 00:18:21,280 one of the first to study the atmosphere 435 00:18:26,830 --> 00:18:24,160 around these exoplanets and perhaps its 436 00:18:29,029 --> 00:18:26,840 most famous exoplanet subject was the 437 00:18:30,870 --> 00:18:29,039 trappist-1 system can you tell me a 438 00:18:32,310 --> 00:18:30,880 little bit about this system i'd like to 439 00:18:34,630 --> 00:18:32,320 do a little demonstration here this 440 00:18:37,510 --> 00:18:34,640 grapefruit is the star this ping-pong 441 00:18:39,909 --> 00:18:37,520 ball is a planet and we know from the so 442 00:18:42,070 --> 00:18:39,919 here's the planet going around the star 443 00:18:44,070 --> 00:18:42,080 we know from the kepler space telescope 444 00:18:46,230 --> 00:18:44,080 that most stars in our galaxy have 445 00:18:49,029 --> 00:18:46,240 planets around them and because of that 446 00:18:51,430 --> 00:18:49,039 there are many cases in which the planet 447 00:18:53,350 --> 00:18:51,440 is orbiting edge on as we see it so we 448 00:18:54,390 --> 00:18:53,360 can see the planet move in front of the 449 00:18:56,549 --> 00:18:54,400 star 450 00:18:58,070 --> 00:18:56,559 that's the case of the trappist system 451 00:18:59,590 --> 00:18:58,080 when the planet moves in front of the 452 00:19:01,190 --> 00:18:59,600 star 453 00:19:03,190 --> 00:19:01,200 you see a little less light from the 454 00:19:04,549 --> 00:19:03,200 star than you did and now it comes back 455 00:19:06,789 --> 00:19:04,559 out you see more 456 00:19:08,789 --> 00:19:06,799 light from the star the depth of that 457 00:19:11,029 --> 00:19:08,799 drop tells you about the size of the 458 00:19:13,510 --> 00:19:11,039 planet and if this is an orbit where it 459 00:19:15,830 --> 00:19:13,520 goes around say every three days the 460 00:19:18,230 --> 00:19:15,840 length of the orbit tells you how far 461 00:19:19,669 --> 00:19:18,240 from the star the planet actually is 462 00:19:21,909 --> 00:19:19,679 and you can get lots of other 463 00:19:24,310 --> 00:19:21,919 information by studying these so-called 464 00:19:26,549 --> 00:19:24,320 transiting planets it's quite remarkable 465 00:19:28,230 --> 00:19:26,559 how much information you can get about 466 00:19:30,710 --> 00:19:28,240 planets which you never really see 467 00:19:32,870 --> 00:19:30,720 distinctly apart from the star in the 468 00:19:35,270 --> 00:19:32,880 case of the trappist system there's a 469 00:19:37,590 --> 00:19:35,280 beautiful artist's conception there 470 00:19:39,750 --> 00:19:37,600 we monitor it for 20 days with spitzer 471 00:19:40,630 --> 00:19:39,760 which is possible in our orbit because 472 00:19:42,230 --> 00:19:40,640 of the 473 00:19:43,110 --> 00:19:42,240 freedom distance from the earth and the 474 00:19:45,190 --> 00:19:43,120 moon 475 00:19:45,990 --> 00:19:45,200 and saw so many 476 00:19:48,630 --> 00:19:46,000 uh 477 00:19:49,909 --> 00:19:48,640 patterns interwoven planets of patterns 478 00:19:52,230 --> 00:19:49,919 of transits 479 00:19:54,310 --> 00:19:52,240 that we had the team that was working on 480 00:19:56,630 --> 00:19:54,320 it sort of sorted all that out and found 481 00:19:58,950 --> 00:19:56,640 that there are actually seven planets 482 00:20:01,590 --> 00:19:58,960 orbiting that star quite snuggled up 483 00:20:03,669 --> 00:20:01,600 close to it it's a faint red star 484 00:20:05,909 --> 00:20:03,679 and of those seven planets they're all 485 00:20:08,149 --> 00:20:05,919 about the size of the earth we expect 486 00:20:09,909 --> 00:20:08,159 that about three of them will are in the 487 00:20:12,149 --> 00:20:09,919 habitable zone which is where water 488 00:20:14,789 --> 00:20:12,159 would be liquid on their surfaces which 489 00:20:16,070 --> 00:20:14,799 is important if they're we feel it's 490 00:20:18,230 --> 00:20:16,080 important if they're going to harbor 491 00:20:20,230 --> 00:20:18,240 life or if they do harbor life 492 00:20:22,549 --> 00:20:20,240 so this system has been well studied by 493 00:20:24,950 --> 00:20:22,559 spitzer it's the best characterized 494 00:20:26,789 --> 00:20:24,960 solar system outside of our own 495 00:20:28,789 --> 00:20:26,799 and it's sitting there awaiting the 496 00:20:30,390 --> 00:20:28,799 james webb space telescope 497 00:20:31,669 --> 00:20:30,400 which paul will be talking about later 498 00:20:33,750 --> 00:20:31,679 which will provide additional 499 00:20:36,149 --> 00:20:33,760 information about this exciting and 500 00:20:38,149 --> 00:20:36,159 surprising system of exoplanets it's 501 00:20:40,310 --> 00:20:38,159 amazing because in the end the science 502 00:20:42,230 --> 00:20:40,320 will just continue to live on absolutely 503 00:20:44,470 --> 00:20:42,240 which is amazing now my personal 504 00:20:46,710 --> 00:20:44,480 favorite is the 360 degree view of the 505 00:20:49,110 --> 00:20:46,720 milky way it's so fascinating how is 506 00:20:51,350 --> 00:20:49,120 spitzer able to map out that milky way 507 00:20:53,510 --> 00:20:51,360 so extensively well the the milky way 508 00:20:55,990 --> 00:20:53,520 survey which is called glimpse is an 509 00:20:57,909 --> 00:20:56,000 example of a legacy science program that 510 00:20:59,909 --> 00:20:57,919 we initiated early on 511 00:21:02,710 --> 00:20:59,919 to enable teams to do really big 512 00:21:04,549 --> 00:21:02,720 projects now to do this big image 513 00:21:05,669 --> 00:21:04,559 spitzer had to be first of all very 514 00:21:08,149 --> 00:21:05,679 sensitive 515 00:21:09,750 --> 00:21:08,159 because it's cold in space 516 00:21:11,750 --> 00:21:09,760 it's free of the 517 00:21:14,070 --> 00:21:11,760 contamination of foreground infrared 518 00:21:16,310 --> 00:21:14,080 radiation it views against the cold 519 00:21:17,909 --> 00:21:16,320 background of space as opposed to the 520 00:21:20,230 --> 00:21:17,919 warm infrared background of our 521 00:21:23,190 --> 00:21:20,240 atmosphere say so spitzer is very 522 00:21:25,830 --> 00:21:23,200 sensitive each image that went into that 523 00:21:28,070 --> 00:21:25,840 composite took only a few seconds it has 524 00:21:30,390 --> 00:21:28,080 a big field of view it sees a big piece 525 00:21:32,149 --> 00:21:30,400 of sky at one time with what's called an 526 00:21:34,390 --> 00:21:32,159 array kind of think of the 527 00:21:37,270 --> 00:21:34,400 camera your cell phone lots of pixels 528 00:21:39,350 --> 00:21:37,280 that spitzer's camera 529 00:21:40,390 --> 00:21:39,360 also spitzer is very maneuverable it's a 530 00:21:42,470 --> 00:21:40,400 compact 531 00:21:45,510 --> 00:21:42,480 and tightly constructed spacecraft so it 532 00:21:47,830 --> 00:21:45,520 can hop from one image to the other very 533 00:21:49,909 --> 00:21:47,840 quickly and the other thing that enabled 534 00:21:51,750 --> 00:21:49,919 this was our orbit 535 00:21:53,190 --> 00:21:51,760 because of the fact that we're far from 536 00:21:54,710 --> 00:21:53,200 the earth we don't have to worry about 537 00:21:57,590 --> 00:21:54,720 where the earth is as we're planning our 538 00:21:59,990 --> 00:21:57,600 observations we could set aside huge 539 00:22:02,710 --> 00:22:00,000 swaths of time to allow the team to bite 540 00:22:05,029 --> 00:22:02,720 off big chunks of the milky way 541 00:22:07,669 --> 00:22:05,039 one after the other as a result we have 542 00:22:09,350 --> 00:22:07,679 a database in our archive with millions 543 00:22:13,029 --> 00:22:09,360 of sources in it 544 00:22:15,510 --> 00:22:13,039 young stars old stars evolved stars 545 00:22:16,310 --> 00:22:15,520 interstellar dust interstellar gas 546 00:22:22,630 --> 00:22:16,320 a 547 00:22:24,549 --> 00:22:22,640 will be continued to be used by 548 00:22:26,470 --> 00:22:24,559 scientists far into the future and what 549 00:22:28,789 --> 00:22:26,480 was great about spitzer is you could use 550 00:22:30,390 --> 00:22:28,799 it for lengthy periods of time when you 551 00:22:32,549 --> 00:22:30,400 were looking at one object i believe you 552 00:22:33,430 --> 00:22:32,559 said 40 days was spent on the trappist 553 00:22:35,110 --> 00:22:33,440 system 554 00:22:36,310 --> 00:22:35,120 20 days of 555 00:22:38,870 --> 00:22:36,320 intense 556 00:22:41,669 --> 00:22:38,880 uh round-the-clock observation and then 557 00:22:43,110 --> 00:22:41,679 20 additional days point you know object 558 00:22:44,870 --> 00:22:43,120 by object to determine their 559 00:22:47,350 --> 00:22:44,880 characteristics more completely and for 560 00:22:49,669 --> 00:22:47,360 the milky way it was less but still oh 561 00:22:51,430 --> 00:22:49,679 no it was more it was rewarding 562 00:22:53,750 --> 00:22:51,440 thousands of hours when all was said and 563 00:22:55,350 --> 00:22:53,760 done oh that's amazing it's a remarkable 564 00:22:57,830 --> 00:22:55,360 it was worth it to be able to get that 565 00:22:59,430 --> 00:22:57,840 picture that's for sure and farisa 566 00:23:01,270 --> 00:22:59,440 welcome 567 00:23:02,950 --> 00:23:01,280 now spitzer is almost like the little 568 00:23:05,029 --> 00:23:02,960 engine that could we always talk about 569 00:23:07,190 --> 00:23:05,039 this and why do you believe that spitzer 570 00:23:09,669 --> 00:23:07,200 was so revolutionary joseph talked about 571 00:23:12,070 --> 00:23:09,679 how the mission endured with a strong 572 00:23:14,549 --> 00:23:12,080 team and mike talked about that science 573 00:23:16,870 --> 00:23:14,559 that it returned that's just so amazing 574 00:23:18,470 --> 00:23:16,880 and why do you think it lasted so long 575 00:23:20,950 --> 00:23:18,480 you know spitter space telescope really 576 00:23:22,950 --> 00:23:20,960 is or has been revolutionary because 577 00:23:25,350 --> 00:23:22,960 it's the effort of hundreds of people 578 00:23:27,270 --> 00:23:25,360 coming together just to mention a few i 579 00:23:30,630 --> 00:23:27,280 mean from private industry like lockheed 580 00:23:32,630 --> 00:23:30,640 martin and boeing and ball aerospace 581 00:23:34,950 --> 00:23:32,640 universities building instruments to 582 00:23:36,789 --> 00:23:34,960 build the telescope caltech with the 583 00:23:39,750 --> 00:23:36,799 spitter science center supporting the 584 00:23:41,510 --> 00:23:39,760 science and jpl right supporting the 585 00:23:43,269 --> 00:23:41,520 project the operations the deep space 586 00:23:45,430 --> 00:23:43,279 network to communicate with it so it 587 00:23:47,190 --> 00:23:45,440 really is hundreds of people lots of 588 00:23:49,110 --> 00:23:47,200 teams coming together to make it work 589 00:23:51,350 --> 00:23:49,120 for thousands of astronomers to use and 590 00:23:53,669 --> 00:23:51,360 you can just imagine after over 16 years 591 00:23:55,350 --> 00:23:53,679 of observations a tremendous wealth 592 00:23:58,470 --> 00:23:55,360 right the archive that we have which is 593 00:24:00,549 --> 00:23:58,480 a repository of of data of infrared data 594 00:24:02,149 --> 00:24:00,559 that is waiting to be mined 595 00:24:04,310 --> 00:24:02,159 and i know you guys can't wait to get to 596 00:24:07,110 --> 00:24:04,320 that that's for sure well spitzer is 597 00:24:09,110 --> 00:24:07,120 very famous for its beautiful imagery 598 00:24:11,669 --> 00:24:09,120 what people don't know is the picture we 599 00:24:14,470 --> 00:24:11,679 see is not something spitzer just takes 600 00:24:17,140 --> 00:24:14,480 a picture of it's a lengthy process from 601 00:24:21,590 --> 00:24:17,150 capture to awe 602 00:24:24,230 --> 00:24:21,600 [Music] 603 00:24:26,149 --> 00:24:24,240 the spitzer space telescope has blown us 604 00:24:28,950 --> 00:24:26,159 away with incredible imagery over the 605 00:24:31,029 --> 00:24:28,960 last 16 years however getting these 606 00:24:33,669 --> 00:24:31,039 images is much more difficult than you 607 00:24:35,909 --> 00:24:33,679 may think spacecraft images are not 608 00:24:38,470 --> 00:24:35,919 photographs but pictorial presentations 609 00:24:39,430 --> 00:24:38,480 of data satellite systems measure light 610 00:24:41,669 --> 00:24:39,440 at different bands of the 611 00:24:43,909 --> 00:24:41,679 electromagnetic spectrum in spitzer's 612 00:24:46,710 --> 00:24:43,919 case it's the infrared 613 00:24:48,789 --> 00:24:46,720 this is raw data processed from spitzer 614 00:24:51,190 --> 00:24:48,799 to analyze this flood of numbers 615 00:24:53,669 --> 00:24:51,200 scientists rely on computers not only to 616 00:24:56,070 --> 00:24:53,679 do calculations but also to change data 617 00:24:58,549 --> 00:24:56,080 into images similar to the process our 618 00:25:00,470 --> 00:24:58,559 digital cameras use to get that perfect 619 00:25:02,710 --> 00:25:00,480 picture even with the computer 620 00:25:04,789 --> 00:25:02,720 scientists go through a painstaking 621 00:25:07,430 --> 00:25:04,799 process to make sure the images are 622 00:25:09,590 --> 00:25:07,440 technically correct so the raw data gets 623 00:25:11,669 --> 00:25:09,600 turned into this 624 00:25:14,070 --> 00:25:11,679 spitzer's infrared images are not true 625 00:25:16,149 --> 00:25:14,080 color images since we can't see infrared 626 00:25:18,390 --> 00:25:16,159 wavelengths with our eyes scientists 627 00:25:20,870 --> 00:25:18,400 pick representative colors to show the 628 00:25:22,710 --> 00:25:20,880 infrared light detected by the telescope 629 00:25:24,789 --> 00:25:22,720 computer-aided data collection and 630 00:25:27,350 --> 00:25:24,799 processing is essential but the 631 00:25:30,070 --> 00:25:27,360 scientists truly bring the data into a 632 00:25:32,390 --> 00:25:30,080 visual piece of art that we can enjoy 633 00:25:33,470 --> 00:25:32,400 and understand and that is the art of 634 00:25:38,630 --> 00:25:33,480 spitzer in a minute 635 00:25:43,269 --> 00:25:40,710 and what incredible imagery we will be 636 00:25:45,269 --> 00:25:43,279 able to enjoy for generations to come 637 00:25:47,510 --> 00:25:45,279 now spitzer's images are just 638 00:25:49,190 --> 00:25:47,520 breathtaking what do you think spitzer 639 00:25:51,269 --> 00:25:49,200 unveiled farisa 640 00:25:53,350 --> 00:25:51,279 spitzer space telescope has unveiled the 641 00:25:55,590 --> 00:25:53,360 infrared universe i mean it has allowed 642 00:25:57,750 --> 00:25:55,600 us to see what our human eyes could not 643 00:25:59,990 --> 00:25:57,760 see and as you saw from the video these 644 00:26:02,070 --> 00:26:00,000 these huge molecular clouds in our 645 00:26:04,310 --> 00:26:02,080 galaxy which are stellar nurseries 646 00:26:06,630 --> 00:26:04,320 become transparent when you're observing 647 00:26:09,269 --> 00:26:06,640 in infrared radiation and it allows us 648 00:26:11,190 --> 00:26:09,279 to see these baby stars forming in in 649 00:26:14,070 --> 00:26:11,200 you know hundreds of light years across 650 00:26:16,630 --> 00:26:14,080 and the process of forming a star 651 00:26:18,310 --> 00:26:16,640 some of the debris is left over to form 652 00:26:20,950 --> 00:26:18,320 and coagulate into little planetary 653 00:26:22,549 --> 00:26:20,960 systems spitzer has been a pathfinder in 654 00:26:25,269 --> 00:26:22,559 allowing us to find out which ones are 655 00:26:27,750 --> 00:26:25,279 forming now for future exploration 656 00:26:29,750 --> 00:26:27,760 stellar nurseries amazing that it can 657 00:26:31,909 --> 00:26:29,760 peer into that and as a spitzer 658 00:26:32,789 --> 00:26:31,919 scientist how do you analyze all of that 659 00:26:33,909 --> 00:26:32,799 data 660 00:26:36,230 --> 00:26:33,919 you know there's two things you can do 661 00:26:37,510 --> 00:26:36,240 with with light 662 00:26:39,029 --> 00:26:37,520 any flavor of light in this case 663 00:26:40,789 --> 00:26:39,039 infrared light you can do photometry 664 00:26:43,190 --> 00:26:40,799 which is basically counting photons on 665 00:26:44,950 --> 00:26:43,200 how much light falls on a pixel which is 666 00:26:45,909 --> 00:26:44,960 basically what our phones have or you 667 00:26:48,149 --> 00:26:45,919 can do another technique called 668 00:26:49,750 --> 00:26:48,159 spectroscopy and with spectroscopy the 669 00:26:52,390 --> 00:26:49,760 light gets broken down it means rainbow 670 00:26:53,909 --> 00:26:52,400 components and you can analyze how much 671 00:26:56,710 --> 00:26:53,919 light you're seeing per wavelength how 672 00:26:58,549 --> 00:26:56,720 much how much energy and that is very 673 00:27:01,029 --> 00:26:58,559 interesting an interesting technique and 674 00:27:01,830 --> 00:27:01,039 an amazing technique that humans have 675 00:27:07,029 --> 00:27:01,840 to 676 00:27:09,590 --> 00:27:07,039 from the dust for example that emitted 677 00:27:12,549 --> 00:27:09,600 that radiation and 678 00:27:13,830 --> 00:27:12,559 when you analyze through spectroscopy uh 679 00:27:15,990 --> 00:27:13,840 the composition for example you can 680 00:27:19,029 --> 00:27:16,000 obtain the chemical composition of the 681 00:27:21,590 --> 00:27:19,039 dust orbiting another star and you can 682 00:27:23,350 --> 00:27:21,600 also get information about the structure 683 00:27:25,590 --> 00:27:23,360 of for example other planetary systems 684 00:27:27,029 --> 00:27:25,600 that are forming so it's amazing how 685 00:27:28,470 --> 00:27:27,039 data can be 686 00:27:30,230 --> 00:27:28,480 studied and how much information it 687 00:27:33,029 --> 00:27:30,240 brings us that's amazing from an 688 00:27:35,269 --> 00:27:33,039 engineering marvel of a telescope to its 689 00:27:37,110 --> 00:27:35,279 beautiful science return that's for sure 690 00:27:38,789 --> 00:27:37,120 and there will be much to speak about 691 00:27:40,789 --> 00:27:38,799 when it comes to spitzer for generations 692 00:27:42,710 --> 00:27:40,799 to come i feel but mike what do you 693 00:27:44,549 --> 00:27:42,720 personally think its legacy will be well 694 00:27:46,870 --> 00:27:44,559 to begin with uh several of us have 695 00:27:48,630 --> 00:27:46,880 already mentioned the archive of data 696 00:27:50,549 --> 00:27:48,640 which is already being mined by 697 00:27:52,950 --> 00:27:50,559 astronomers and will continue to be 698 00:27:54,789 --> 00:27:52,960 mined for decades 699 00:27:57,350 --> 00:27:54,799 an important science area that's well 700 00:27:58,789 --> 00:27:57,360 represented in that archive is the study 701 00:28:01,510 --> 00:27:58,799 of the very distant universe we've 702 00:28:03,190 --> 00:28:01,520 talked about exoplanets which are nearby 703 00:28:05,669 --> 00:28:03,200 but spitzer particularly working with 704 00:28:07,510 --> 00:28:05,679 hubble has seen galaxies as they were 705 00:28:09,830 --> 00:28:07,520 when the universe was only a few percent 706 00:28:12,070 --> 00:28:09,840 of its current age and they like the 707 00:28:14,549 --> 00:28:12,080 exoplanets will be well studied by the 708 00:28:16,870 --> 00:28:14,559 james webb space telescope but there's a 709 00:28:19,830 --> 00:28:16,880 human dimension to the legacy as well 710 00:28:22,070 --> 00:28:19,840 and again joseph and farisa both hinted 711 00:28:25,269 --> 00:28:22,080 at this which is the importance of the 712 00:28:26,630 --> 00:28:25,279 teamwork as an example of what people 713 00:28:29,110 --> 00:28:26,640 can accomplish 714 00:28:32,870 --> 00:28:29,120 when they're well led well supported and 715 00:28:35,430 --> 00:28:32,880 empowered the work of the spitzer team 716 00:28:37,510 --> 00:28:35,440 in producing this amazing observatory 717 00:28:40,149 --> 00:28:37,520 and using it so effectively is 718 00:28:42,789 --> 00:28:40,159 absolutely astounding and i think it 719 00:28:44,789 --> 00:28:42,799 stands as a sterling example of what 720 00:28:46,389 --> 00:28:44,799 people are capable of doing 721 00:28:48,630 --> 00:28:46,399 and i think that's important in these 722 00:28:51,190 --> 00:28:48,640 troubled times to realize that there's a 723 00:28:53,430 --> 00:28:51,200 genius and an ability and a strength in 724 00:28:55,430 --> 00:28:53,440 the human spirit which is capable of 725 00:28:57,350 --> 00:28:55,440 doing amazing things so that's another 726 00:28:59,510 --> 00:28:57,360 part of the legacy well you should all 727 00:29:03,110 --> 00:28:59,520 be so proud because it is just 728 00:29:06,070 --> 00:29:03,120 absolutely amazing thank you so much now 729 00:29:08,710 --> 00:29:06,080 spitzer was such a powerhouse in nasa's 730 00:29:11,269 --> 00:29:08,720 astrophysics portfolio and will continue 731 00:29:12,389 --> 00:29:11,279 to bring a wealth of information as we 732 00:29:15,510 --> 00:29:12,399 move ahead 733 00:29:17,510 --> 00:29:15,520 here to talk about why spitzer is ending 734 00:29:20,710 --> 00:29:17,520 and its legacy yet to come through 735 00:29:22,389 --> 00:29:20,720 future missions is paul hurts so paul 736 00:29:24,470 --> 00:29:22,399 tell me a little bit about why we are 737 00:29:27,510 --> 00:29:24,480 ending spitzer's mission and the science 738 00:29:30,710 --> 00:29:27,520 that we'll live on 739 00:29:36,470 --> 00:29:33,590 at nasa we review all of our missions 740 00:29:38,230 --> 00:29:36,480 for their science productivity 741 00:29:39,269 --> 00:29:38,240 uh as they go along through their 742 00:29:41,830 --> 00:29:39,279 mission 743 00:29:44,070 --> 00:29:41,840 in 2016 we 744 00:29:47,029 --> 00:29:44,080 looked ahead and saw the upcoming launch 745 00:29:49,190 --> 00:29:47,039 of the james webb space telescope nasa's 746 00:29:51,830 --> 00:29:49,200 next great observatory 747 00:29:54,230 --> 00:29:51,840 which is also an infrared observatory 748 00:29:56,389 --> 00:29:54,240 and the decision was made that the 749 00:29:59,190 --> 00:29:56,399 spitzer mission should end as the james 750 00:30:01,269 --> 00:29:59,200 webb mission was beginning 751 00:30:02,789 --> 00:30:01,279 at the time we extended the spitzer 752 00:30:05,350 --> 00:30:02,799 mission all the way through the launch 753 00:30:07,669 --> 00:30:05,360 of james webb in 2018 754 00:30:12,149 --> 00:30:07,679 when the james webb launch was delayed 755 00:30:13,669 --> 00:30:12,159 until 2021 we extended spitzer until now 756 00:30:15,750 --> 00:30:13,679 in 2020 757 00:30:17,110 --> 00:30:15,760 but the time has come for the spitzer 758 00:30:19,430 --> 00:30:17,120 mission to end 759 00:30:21,510 --> 00:30:19,440 as we move on to the launch of james 760 00:30:22,710 --> 00:30:21,520 webb next year 761 00:30:25,029 --> 00:30:22,720 and uh 762 00:30:26,950 --> 00:30:25,039 operation of spitzer is becoming more 763 00:30:29,830 --> 00:30:26,960 difficult as it gets further away from 764 00:30:32,630 --> 00:30:29,840 the earth as the angle between the earth 765 00:30:34,830 --> 00:30:32,640 the sun and the telescope changes makes 766 00:30:36,789 --> 00:30:34,840 it more difficult to 767 00:30:38,789 --> 00:30:36,799 simultaneously keep the solar panels 768 00:30:41,110 --> 00:30:38,799 pointed at the sun to keep the 769 00:30:43,430 --> 00:30:41,120 communications antenna pointed at the 770 00:30:45,909 --> 00:30:43,440 earth to keep the telescope pointed at 771 00:30:48,950 --> 00:30:45,919 the stars and planets we want to look at 772 00:30:51,029 --> 00:30:48,960 and to keep the sun off of the telescope 773 00:30:53,590 --> 00:30:51,039 so that it stays very cold and is able 774 00:30:55,909 --> 00:30:53,600 to continue its infrared 775 00:30:58,070 --> 00:30:55,919 we we can continue to operate it today 776 00:31:00,549 --> 00:30:58,080 but in the very near future it will 777 00:31:03,509 --> 00:31:00,559 become very difficult to continue 778 00:31:05,830 --> 00:31:03,519 operating the spitzer space telescope 779 00:31:09,269 --> 00:31:05,840 thank you so much paul now we're going 780 00:31:12,070 --> 00:31:09,279 to open up the panel to our media and 781 00:31:14,789 --> 00:31:12,080 social media questions and our first 782 00:31:18,310 --> 00:31:14,799 question is on the phone from stephen 783 00:31:20,950 --> 00:31:18,320 clark with space flight now welcome 784 00:31:24,710 --> 00:31:22,630 hi thank you all for doing this and for 785 00:31:26,549 --> 00:31:24,720 taking my question 786 00:31:27,669 --> 00:31:26,559 i i just wanted to get an update maybe 787 00:31:28,789 --> 00:31:27,679 from 788 00:31:30,870 --> 00:31:28,799 mr hunt 789 00:31:32,789 --> 00:31:30,880 about the process to 790 00:31:34,549 --> 00:31:32,799 shut down the telescope 791 00:31:36,230 --> 00:31:34,559 have science observations already ended 792 00:31:38,149 --> 00:31:36,240 are you still getting down some final 793 00:31:40,710 --> 00:31:38,159 images over this next week 794 00:31:42,470 --> 00:31:40,720 and can you talk about the process to 795 00:31:43,990 --> 00:31:42,480 shut down the telescope what commands 796 00:31:44,789 --> 00:31:44,000 will you be sending to turn it off and 797 00:31:46,470 --> 00:31:44,799 to 798 00:31:48,710 --> 00:31:46,480 save or passivate it 799 00:31:50,950 --> 00:31:48,720 and maybe for paul hertz uh do you have 800 00:31:53,110 --> 00:31:50,960 the total life cycle cost for the 801 00:31:53,909 --> 00:31:53,120 spitzer space telescope from development 802 00:31:56,310 --> 00:31:53,919 through 803 00:31:59,269 --> 00:31:56,320 uh in this mission thank you 804 00:32:00,389 --> 00:31:59,279 okay sure so i'll go first paul and uh 805 00:32:03,190 --> 00:32:00,399 yes so 806 00:32:06,310 --> 00:32:03,200 over the course of the next week 807 00:32:09,110 --> 00:32:06,320 we will still have a set of uh science 808 00:32:11,909 --> 00:32:09,120 activities that are scheduled to be ran 809 00:32:15,909 --> 00:32:11,919 on the telescope uh we are complete most 810 00:32:18,789 --> 00:32:15,919 of our science activities on the 28th 811 00:32:21,110 --> 00:32:18,799 and complete our final science playback 812 00:32:23,350 --> 00:32:21,120 on the 29th 813 00:32:25,909 --> 00:32:23,360 then continuing forward 814 00:32:27,350 --> 00:32:25,919 what happens for the intermission 815 00:32:30,549 --> 00:32:27,360 passivation 816 00:32:33,190 --> 00:32:30,559 or safe mode in place so for the spitzer 817 00:32:35,509 --> 00:32:33,200 spacecraft because of what paul had 818 00:32:37,909 --> 00:32:35,519 mentioned earlier about 819 00:32:43,029 --> 00:32:37,919 extending the operations 820 00:32:46,789 --> 00:32:43,039 to couple with jwst jwst was delayed uh 821 00:32:49,669 --> 00:32:46,799 spitzer steele had some extended uh 822 00:32:53,509 --> 00:32:49,679 operations in science uh we've reached 823 00:32:55,750 --> 00:32:53,519 the point that what we're going to do is 824 00:32:58,310 --> 00:32:55,760 utilize the engineering time of what we 825 00:32:59,909 --> 00:32:58,320 did was utilize the engineering time to 826 00:33:02,549 --> 00:32:59,919 really focus 827 00:33:05,430 --> 00:33:02,559 on returning more science as far as 828 00:33:07,830 --> 00:33:05,440 passivation there's really nothing on 829 00:33:09,590 --> 00:33:07,840 picture that you would need to passivate 830 00:33:11,430 --> 00:33:09,600 we use nitrogen 831 00:33:13,830 --> 00:33:11,440 to keep it stable which is the very 832 00:33:16,710 --> 00:33:13,840 inert gas 833 00:33:17,909 --> 00:33:16,720 based on the orbit which susan susie 834 00:33:20,870 --> 00:33:17,919 mentioned 835 00:33:24,230 --> 00:33:20,880 our orbit we are receding away from 836 00:33:27,190 --> 00:33:24,240 earth with about 160 837 00:33:29,669 --> 00:33:27,200 miles away will continue out on this 838 00:33:32,789 --> 00:33:29,679 trajectory so really there's nothing out 839 00:33:34,149 --> 00:33:32,799 there for spitzer to crash into 840 00:33:37,350 --> 00:33:34,159 other than 841 00:33:42,870 --> 00:33:40,710 some field of debris uh so there's 842 00:33:46,389 --> 00:33:42,880 nothing there so what we're gonna do is 843 00:33:49,269 --> 00:33:46,399 on the 30th we're gonna put spitzer in a 844 00:33:51,269 --> 00:33:49,279 hibernation mode per se we're gonna 845 00:33:54,149 --> 00:33:51,279 command it from the ground 846 00:33:56,950 --> 00:33:54,159 to put it in safe mode in safe mode it 847 00:33:59,190 --> 00:33:56,960 goes into a sun coning attitude and it 848 00:34:07,909 --> 00:33:59,200 will just stay in that attitude 849 00:34:13,510 --> 00:34:09,589 and i think you had a second part of 850 00:34:15,109 --> 00:34:13,520 your question about costs to paul paul 851 00:34:17,109 --> 00:34:15,119 would you be able to ask 852 00:34:21,510 --> 00:34:17,119 yes would paul be able to answer 853 00:34:25,589 --> 00:34:24,149 so that's a great question and uh we 854 00:34:27,589 --> 00:34:25,599 should have had been ready for that one 855 00:34:30,470 --> 00:34:27,599 but quite frankly we haven't i don't 856 00:34:31,349 --> 00:34:30,480 have that number off top of my head okay 857 00:34:33,430 --> 00:34:31,359 great 858 00:34:34,470 --> 00:34:33,440 okay next question comes from kimberly 859 00:34:35,990 --> 00:34:34,480 cartier 860 00:34:37,990 --> 00:34:36,000 from eos 861 00:34:40,069 --> 00:34:38,000 hello kimberly 862 00:34:42,230 --> 00:34:40,079 hi thanks so much for taking my question 863 00:34:43,669 --> 00:34:42,240 and for putting together this event 864 00:34:45,589 --> 00:34:43,679 um now 865 00:34:47,990 --> 00:34:45,599 given that the james webb space 866 00:34:50,710 --> 00:34:48,000 telescope is obviously not launched yet 867 00:34:52,790 --> 00:34:50,720 and it's going to essentially 868 00:34:54,389 --> 00:34:52,800 take over for spitzer in terms of 869 00:34:57,030 --> 00:34:54,399 infrared coverage 870 00:35:00,829 --> 00:34:57,040 is there any concerns about the gap in 871 00:35:05,910 --> 00:35:03,030 paul would you be able to answer that 872 00:35:08,150 --> 00:35:05,920 question for kimberly 873 00:35:11,750 --> 00:35:08,160 sure i'll be glad to uh there's no 874 00:35:12,870 --> 00:35:11,760 concern about the gap um uh because the 875 00:35:14,390 --> 00:35:12,880 universe 876 00:35:15,829 --> 00:35:14,400 you know we're observing it now with 877 00:35:17,750 --> 00:35:15,839 spitzer 878 00:35:19,589 --> 00:35:17,760 starting next year when the james webb 879 00:35:21,670 --> 00:35:19,599 space telescope launches we'll be 880 00:35:24,230 --> 00:35:21,680 observing it with james webb uh the 881 00:35:26,470 --> 00:35:24,240 james webb mirror is 50 times larger in 882 00:35:29,670 --> 00:35:26,480 the spitzer mirror so we'll be able to 883 00:35:31,829 --> 00:35:29,680 observe uh even deeper into the universe 884 00:35:33,990 --> 00:35:31,839 in fact james webb is designed to detect 885 00:35:36,870 --> 00:35:34,000 the first light after the big bang the 886 00:35:38,870 --> 00:35:36,880 first stars in the first galaxies um and 887 00:35:40,710 --> 00:35:38,880 even beyond that we're 888 00:35:42,870 --> 00:35:40,720 we're started building the 889 00:35:44,390 --> 00:35:42,880 wide field infrared survey telescope 890 00:35:46,630 --> 00:35:44,400 wfirth which will be the great 891 00:35:48,950 --> 00:35:46,640 observatory to follow web 892 00:35:51,109 --> 00:35:48,960 wfirst has the sensitivity of hubble but 893 00:35:53,190 --> 00:35:51,119 a hundred times the field of view so 894 00:35:55,990 --> 00:35:53,200 with every wfirst image we'll be doing a 895 00:35:57,910 --> 00:35:56,000 hundred hubble deep fields so we're well 896 00:35:59,990 --> 00:35:57,920 positioned to continue studying the 897 00:36:03,030 --> 00:36:00,000 universe in infrared 898 00:36:05,510 --> 00:36:03,040 and the gap of a year or so really is 899 00:36:07,510 --> 00:36:05,520 not a concern 900 00:36:10,390 --> 00:36:07,520 thank you so much paul and now we head 901 00:36:12,470 --> 00:36:10,400 over to social media remember if you 902 00:36:14,470 --> 00:36:12,480 want to ask our panelists a question 903 00:36:17,510 --> 00:36:14,480 head over to social media and hashtag 904 00:36:20,230 --> 00:36:17,520 ask nasa this is from at 905 00:36:23,030 --> 00:36:20,240 dan biko and dan would like to know this 906 00:36:25,510 --> 00:36:23,040 is sad news is there a replacement in 907 00:36:27,910 --> 00:36:25,520 the works and i think that paul you just 908 00:36:29,510 --> 00:36:27,920 mentioned we've got a james webb and w 909 00:36:32,630 --> 00:36:29,520 first if you want to go ahead and talk a 910 00:36:39,349 --> 00:36:35,670 right well uh while neither 911 00:36:40,470 --> 00:36:39,359 web nor w first will exactly replace 912 00:36:41,670 --> 00:36:40,480 spitzer 913 00:36:44,230 --> 00:36:41,680 they both 914 00:36:46,870 --> 00:36:44,240 are built on the legacy of spitzer first 915 00:36:49,430 --> 00:36:46,880 of all the science that spitzer did 916 00:36:51,349 --> 00:36:49,440 has revealed a lot of 917 00:36:53,990 --> 00:36:51,359 mysteries of the universe that we want 918 00:36:55,270 --> 00:36:54,000 to follow up with webb and wfirst 919 00:36:57,589 --> 00:36:55,280 in addition 920 00:37:00,950 --> 00:36:57,599 something we didn't talk about is that 921 00:37:03,750 --> 00:37:00,960 spitzer demonstrated a passive cooling 922 00:37:06,150 --> 00:37:03,760 of a telescope the spitzer telescope is 923 00:37:07,349 --> 00:37:06,160 kept cold by just radiating out into 924 00:37:09,109 --> 00:37:07,359 space 925 00:37:10,950 --> 00:37:09,119 and it's only a few tens of degrees 926 00:37:13,270 --> 00:37:10,960 above absolute zero 927 00:37:15,670 --> 00:37:13,280 it doesn't require a complex cooling 928 00:37:17,270 --> 00:37:15,680 system to stay cold and that's exactly 929 00:37:19,750 --> 00:37:17,280 how we're going to keep the james webb 930 00:37:21,750 --> 00:37:19,760 space telescope mirror cold even though 931 00:37:23,990 --> 00:37:21,760 it's 50 times bigger than the spitzer 932 00:37:27,190 --> 00:37:24,000 space telescope we'll cool it down to 933 00:37:29,829 --> 00:37:27,200 below 50 degrees abs above absolute zero 934 00:37:31,910 --> 00:37:29,839 by passively radiating out of the space 935 00:37:33,510 --> 00:37:31,920 a technique that was developed and 936 00:37:35,510 --> 00:37:33,520 demonstrated by the spitzer space 937 00:37:37,829 --> 00:37:35,520 telescope 938 00:37:41,190 --> 00:37:37,839 thank you so much paul our next question 939 00:37:43,430 --> 00:37:41,200 from social media is from iris iris 940 00:37:47,510 --> 00:37:43,440 wants to know what is the spitzer team 941 00:37:50,390 --> 00:37:47,520 going to be doing after the shutdown 942 00:37:52,950 --> 00:37:50,400 i'll take that question ours so um good 943 00:37:55,589 --> 00:37:52,960 question what will the team be doing so 944 00:37:58,230 --> 00:37:55,599 actually we are closing out the mission 945 00:38:00,150 --> 00:37:58,240 and shutting down the observatory is 946 00:38:03,190 --> 00:38:00,160 just one phase of that 947 00:38:06,390 --> 00:38:03,200 during the close out we decommission 948 00:38:09,109 --> 00:38:06,400 the flight and the ground assets 949 00:38:11,589 --> 00:38:09,119 so once the spacecraft is declared 950 00:38:13,910 --> 00:38:11,599 decommissioned we'll start the closeout 951 00:38:16,550 --> 00:38:13,920 process for archiving all of the 952 00:38:18,310 --> 00:38:16,560 documentation and all of our 953 00:38:20,069 --> 00:38:18,320 non-science 954 00:38:21,990 --> 00:38:20,079 data which is the engineering data that 955 00:38:24,950 --> 00:38:22,000 we've collected off for the observatory 956 00:38:31,109 --> 00:38:24,960 for the many years of operations so that 957 00:38:37,990 --> 00:38:34,390 thank you so much joseph 958 00:38:39,829 --> 00:38:38,000 now we have megan bartel from space.com 959 00:38:41,349 --> 00:38:39,839 on the lines thank you for joining us 960 00:38:43,109 --> 00:38:41,359 megan 961 00:38:45,349 --> 00:38:43,119 thanks for taking my call can you hear 962 00:38:47,829 --> 00:38:45,359 me yes i can 963 00:38:49,750 --> 00:38:47,839 great uh this is a question from mike if 964 00:38:50,790 --> 00:38:49,760 you could just uh you've talked about 965 00:38:53,510 --> 00:38:50,800 the science a lot but if you could 966 00:38:55,030 --> 00:38:53,520 summarize sort of what your own personal 967 00:38:58,710 --> 00:38:55,040 favorite discovery 968 00:39:01,270 --> 00:38:58,720 from the mission is that would be great 969 00:39:03,670 --> 00:39:01,280 well from from from the very big picture 970 00:39:06,069 --> 00:39:03,680 clearly the results on exoplanets and 971 00:39:07,430 --> 00:39:06,079 the results on the distant universe 972 00:39:09,750 --> 00:39:07,440 are the two 973 00:39:12,390 --> 00:39:09,760 major areas of spitzer's 974 00:39:14,390 --> 00:39:12,400 contributions as we discussed earlier 975 00:39:15,589 --> 00:39:14,400 but i have a soft spot in my heart for 976 00:39:17,510 --> 00:39:15,599 several 977 00:39:19,670 --> 00:39:17,520 smaller 978 00:39:20,950 --> 00:39:19,680 discoveries and i just to mention one of 979 00:39:23,829 --> 00:39:20,960 them um 980 00:39:26,150 --> 00:39:23,839 my colleague mike jura from ucla 981 00:39:28,470 --> 00:39:26,160 discovered that you can 982 00:39:31,270 --> 00:39:28,480 determine the composition of 983 00:39:33,430 --> 00:39:31,280 exoplanetary systems by studying the 984 00:39:36,870 --> 00:39:33,440 atmospheres of white dwarfs 985 00:39:38,790 --> 00:39:36,880 sounds very surprising but a white dwarf 986 00:39:40,710 --> 00:39:38,800 which is an evolved star 987 00:39:43,910 --> 00:39:40,720 if it had a planetary system while it 988 00:39:48,710 --> 00:39:45,910 part of that planetary system comets or 989 00:39:50,710 --> 00:39:48,720 asteroids may approach the white dwarf 990 00:39:51,829 --> 00:39:50,720 get torn apart by its very strong 991 00:39:54,150 --> 00:39:51,839 gravity 992 00:39:55,910 --> 00:39:54,160 that material will fall onto the 993 00:39:57,109 --> 00:39:55,920 atmosphere of the white dwarf and can be 994 00:39:58,870 --> 00:39:57,119 observed 995 00:40:01,349 --> 00:39:58,880 because the atmosphere is polluted by 996 00:40:03,270 --> 00:40:01,359 that material it's a very 997 00:40:05,349 --> 00:40:03,280 solid but somewhat roundabout way of 998 00:40:07,270 --> 00:40:05,359 studying the composition of 999 00:40:09,270 --> 00:40:07,280 extrasolar planetary systems which 1000 00:40:11,589 --> 00:40:09,280 really can't be done any other way so 1001 00:40:13,430 --> 00:40:11,599 that's just one of several little gems 1002 00:40:14,790 --> 00:40:13,440 that i followed with great delight over 1003 00:40:16,550 --> 00:40:14,800 the years 1004 00:40:18,150 --> 00:40:16,560 wonderful wonderful we also have a 1005 00:40:21,349 --> 00:40:18,160 follow-up question right now from 1006 00:40:22,870 --> 00:40:21,359 kimberly cartier from eos welcome back 1007 00:40:24,710 --> 00:40:22,880 kimberly 1008 00:40:26,630 --> 00:40:24,720 hi thanks so much for the opportunity 1009 00:40:29,349 --> 00:40:26,640 for a second question i'm sort of 1010 00:40:32,069 --> 00:40:29,359 following on to that are there other 1011 00:40:34,870 --> 00:40:32,079 uh observations from inside the solar 1012 00:40:37,750 --> 00:40:34,880 system or of solar system objects that 1013 00:40:39,750 --> 00:40:37,760 are particularly exciting for you 1014 00:40:42,550 --> 00:40:39,760 or anyone now 1015 00:40:44,710 --> 00:40:42,560 i think the most exciting apart from 1016 00:40:46,790 --> 00:40:44,720 saturn's rings that susie mentioned 1017 00:40:49,270 --> 00:40:46,800 the most exciting solar system result 1018 00:40:50,829 --> 00:40:49,280 came early in the system in the mission 1019 00:40:53,910 --> 00:40:50,839 when the deep impact 1020 00:40:56,630 --> 00:40:53,920 spacecraft collided with the nucleus of 1021 00:40:59,510 --> 00:40:56,640 a comet and put out put out a great 1022 00:41:02,150 --> 00:40:59,520 spray of gas and dust spitzer and many 1023 00:41:04,230 --> 00:41:02,160 other telescopes observed that in detail 1024 00:41:07,190 --> 00:41:04,240 because it was a first look at the 1025 00:41:09,750 --> 00:41:07,200 primordial material buried beneath the 1026 00:41:12,309 --> 00:41:09,760 crusty outer surface of a comet 1027 00:41:13,829 --> 00:41:12,319 and very interestingly we found that the 1028 00:41:15,270 --> 00:41:13,839 composition of that material which 1029 00:41:17,910 --> 00:41:15,280 contained a lot of 1030 00:41:20,470 --> 00:41:17,920 silicate minerals and so forth was very 1031 00:41:22,309 --> 00:41:20,480 very similar to the composition of 1032 00:41:24,309 --> 00:41:22,319 material which we see around 1033 00:41:29,349 --> 00:41:24,319 exoplanetary systems 1034 00:41:31,990 --> 00:41:29,359 one of many ways in which spitzer 1035 00:41:34,150 --> 00:41:32,000 established important links between our 1036 00:41:37,030 --> 00:41:34,160 own solar system which we study well 1037 00:41:38,550 --> 00:41:37,040 from inside and these external systems 1038 00:41:40,470 --> 00:41:38,560 where we can see them from the outside 1039 00:41:42,069 --> 00:41:40,480 and sort of got a bigger picture but 1040 00:41:43,109 --> 00:41:42,079 there are lots of commonalities which 1041 00:41:44,950 --> 00:41:43,119 have been 1042 00:41:48,150 --> 00:41:44,960 improved our understanding of both the 1043 00:41:50,390 --> 00:41:48,160 solar system and exoplanetary systems 1044 00:41:52,069 --> 00:41:50,400 the similarity in composition is just 1045 00:41:53,589 --> 00:41:52,079 one of those 1046 00:41:56,309 --> 00:41:53,599 thank you so much mike we also have a 1047 00:42:00,829 --> 00:41:56,319 follow-up question from steven clark 1048 00:42:05,190 --> 00:42:03,109 steven hi thank you for taking another 1049 00:42:07,589 --> 00:42:05,200 question from me um to follow up on my 1050 00:42:09,670 --> 00:42:07,599 earlier question to joseph 1051 00:42:10,950 --> 00:42:09,680 uh so the spacecraft is going to go into 1052 00:42:13,030 --> 00:42:10,960 a safe mode 1053 00:42:15,750 --> 00:42:13,040 is turning the receiver and radio 1054 00:42:18,470 --> 00:42:15,760 transmitter off part of that process 1055 00:42:20,309 --> 00:42:18,480 or do those remain on and is there any 1056 00:42:22,309 --> 00:42:20,319 possibility to 1057 00:42:23,829 --> 00:42:22,319 reestablish contact with the spacecraft 1058 00:42:24,870 --> 00:42:23,839 at some point in the distant future 1059 00:42:30,150 --> 00:42:24,880 thank you 1060 00:42:32,230 --> 00:42:30,160 susie mentioned in all in her discussion 1061 00:42:35,030 --> 00:42:32,240 was the orbit geometry and how the 1062 00:42:38,550 --> 00:42:35,040 spacecraft recedes away 1063 00:42:41,750 --> 00:42:38,560 as will getting further away the radio 1064 00:42:43,670 --> 00:42:41,760 signal continues to weaken so it you 1065 00:42:46,550 --> 00:42:43,680 know the 1066 00:42:49,990 --> 00:42:46,560 possibility of contacting it 1067 00:42:52,309 --> 00:42:50,000 becomes more complex and more difficult 1068 00:42:54,870 --> 00:42:52,319 again one of the things that i 1069 00:42:57,270 --> 00:42:54,880 uh included earlier in talking about the 1070 00:42:58,390 --> 00:42:57,280 closeout so when you're decommissioning 1071 00:43:01,910 --> 00:42:58,400 the spacecraft 1072 00:43:04,870 --> 00:43:01,920 you also decommission the ground system 1073 00:43:07,829 --> 00:43:04,880 spitzer use a very customized ground 1074 00:43:09,910 --> 00:43:07,839 system to create the science sequences 1075 00:43:11,670 --> 00:43:09,920 and the products that you need 1076 00:43:14,550 --> 00:43:11,680 to collect the science 1077 00:43:17,589 --> 00:43:14,560 once that system is dissolved it makes 1078 00:43:20,870 --> 00:43:17,599 it very difficult or 1079 00:43:22,550 --> 00:43:20,880 impossible to resurrect so the 1080 00:43:24,710 --> 00:43:22,560 likelihood of 1081 00:43:27,430 --> 00:43:24,720 recommanding or resurrecting science 1082 00:43:30,069 --> 00:43:27,440 operation would sign with spitzer would 1083 00:43:36,790 --> 00:43:33,589 thank you joseph and we have a question 1084 00:43:39,430 --> 00:43:36,800 on social media from manish 1085 00:43:42,870 --> 00:43:39,440 what is the future of exoplanet 1086 00:43:45,190 --> 00:43:42,880 discovery once nasa spitzer stops 1087 00:43:47,430 --> 00:43:45,200 collecting data paul can you take that 1088 00:43:53,030 --> 00:43:49,750 sure i'll be glad to marina but before i 1089 00:43:55,510 --> 00:43:53,040 do let me say that we have found the 1090 00:43:58,270 --> 00:43:55,520 total cost of the spitzer mission from a 1091 00:44:00,950 --> 00:43:58,280 previous question and the total cost is 1092 00:44:03,510 --> 00:44:00,960 1.36 billion dollars 1093 00:44:06,150 --> 00:44:03,520 spent over the last 20 plus years that 1094 00:44:08,790 --> 00:44:06,160 includes building and operating and 1095 00:44:09,990 --> 00:44:08,800 launching the observatory 1096 00:44:14,230 --> 00:44:10,000 so uh 1097 00:44:16,470 --> 00:44:14,240 two years ago in 2018 nasa launched its 1098 00:44:19,510 --> 00:44:16,480 next exoplanet mission the transiting 1099 00:44:22,710 --> 00:44:19,520 exoplanet survey satellite called tess 1100 00:44:25,270 --> 00:44:22,720 a tess is surveying the entire sky 1101 00:44:27,589 --> 00:44:25,280 looking for transiting exoplanets around 1102 00:44:29,829 --> 00:44:27,599 the nearest and brightest stars 1103 00:44:31,990 --> 00:44:29,839 it's already found over a thousand 1104 00:44:34,309 --> 00:44:32,000 candidate exoplanets in just its first 1105 00:44:36,630 --> 00:44:34,319 year and a half of operations we've 1106 00:44:38,309 --> 00:44:36,640 approved tests for another three years 1107 00:44:39,589 --> 00:44:38,319 of operations 1108 00:44:42,630 --> 00:44:39,599 so far 1109 00:44:44,150 --> 00:44:42,640 and so the future of exoplanet studies 1110 00:44:45,510 --> 00:44:44,160 is very bright 1111 00:44:48,790 --> 00:44:45,520 with the tess 1112 00:44:50,550 --> 00:44:48,800 telescope discovering new exoplanets 1113 00:44:51,910 --> 00:44:50,560 james webb space telescope which you've 1114 00:44:54,309 --> 00:44:51,920 already talked about will be launching 1115 00:44:56,870 --> 00:44:54,319 next year and one of its key science 1116 00:44:58,470 --> 00:44:56,880 areas will be uh characterizing 1117 00:45:00,950 --> 00:44:58,480 individual exoplanets the most 1118 00:45:03,670 --> 00:45:00,960 interesting ones using its suite of four 1119 00:45:05,430 --> 00:45:03,680 very powerful instruments on board in 1120 00:45:09,109 --> 00:45:05,440 addition the hubble space telescope 1121 00:45:11,190 --> 00:45:09,119 continues to study exoplanets 1122 00:45:12,790 --> 00:45:11,200 thank you so much paul and i think one 1123 00:45:15,030 --> 00:45:12,800 of the most amazing things at least for 1124 00:45:17,670 --> 00:45:15,040 the public to fall in love with spitzer 1125 00:45:19,109 --> 00:45:17,680 has been from its many incredible images 1126 00:45:20,710 --> 00:45:19,119 and i know each of you have your 1127 00:45:22,150 --> 00:45:20,720 favorites so if we could just go down 1128 00:45:24,069 --> 00:45:22,160 the line and you could tell me what your 1129 00:45:26,710 --> 00:45:24,079 favorite spitzer image is i would 1130 00:45:30,870 --> 00:45:26,720 appreciate it uh yes marina my favorite 1131 00:45:32,790 --> 00:45:30,880 images is of a region called ngc 1333 1132 00:45:34,550 --> 00:45:32,800 where stars are forming 1133 00:45:37,430 --> 00:45:34,560 it's very colorful 1134 00:45:40,230 --> 00:45:37,440 it shows a progression between the very 1135 00:45:42,309 --> 00:45:40,240 youngest stars and slightly older ones 1136 00:45:43,349 --> 00:45:42,319 and this is a geometrical progression in 1137 00:45:45,589 --> 00:45:43,359 space 1138 00:45:49,190 --> 00:45:45,599 and you can imagine that there's a wave 1139 00:45:52,470 --> 00:45:49,200 of star formation propagating along that 1140 00:45:54,630 --> 00:45:52,480 trajectory and each generation of stars 1141 00:45:57,190 --> 00:45:54,640 triggers the star formation the next 1142 00:45:58,150 --> 00:45:57,200 generation by the pressure that it puts 1143 00:46:00,870 --> 00:45:58,160 on the 1144 00:46:05,510 --> 00:46:00,880 surrounding molecular gas and dust so my 1145 00:46:08,390 --> 00:46:07,030 well i have many favorites but i'm going 1146 00:46:10,790 --> 00:46:08,400 to highlight one that was very 1147 00:46:12,950 --> 00:46:10,800 impressive to me 1148 00:46:15,030 --> 00:46:12,960 it's called mountains of creation and 1149 00:46:17,349 --> 00:46:15,040 it's an amazing very impressive hundreds 1150 00:46:19,990 --> 00:46:17,359 of light years across molecular cloud 1151 00:46:22,470 --> 00:46:20,000 that shows the erosion of this cloud as 1152 00:46:24,230 --> 00:46:22,480 it forms baby stars uh it's very 1153 00:46:26,550 --> 00:46:24,240 impressive to me it's a beautiful one 1154 00:46:28,470 --> 00:46:26,560 yeah joseph hi maureen so that's a 1155 00:46:31,190 --> 00:46:28,480 really difficult question 1156 00:46:33,670 --> 00:46:31,200 because you know 1157 00:46:35,510 --> 00:46:33,680 absolutely i remember for our launch 1158 00:46:37,670 --> 00:46:35,520 anniversary we were putting together 1159 00:46:39,990 --> 00:46:37,680 images and that same question was asked 1160 00:46:41,829 --> 00:46:40,000 and he spent minutes just 1161 00:46:44,790 --> 00:46:41,839 strolling through but 1162 00:46:46,870 --> 00:46:44,800 mike explained the science of it and i 1163 00:46:49,589 --> 00:46:46,880 think looking at the um 1164 00:46:52,950 --> 00:46:49,599 the graphic or the artist concept of it 1165 00:46:54,069 --> 00:46:52,960 for the trappist-1 uh system would 1166 00:46:55,109 --> 00:46:54,079 probably be 1167 00:46:57,829 --> 00:46:55,119 my 1168 00:47:01,270 --> 00:46:57,839 most favorite wonderful susie um well 1169 00:47:04,069 --> 00:47:01,280 besides saturn and saturn's rings um i 1170 00:47:07,270 --> 00:47:04,079 really like um m81 which is just a 1171 00:47:10,790 --> 00:47:07,280 classic spiral galaxy and i think that 1172 00:47:13,190 --> 00:47:10,800 kind of epitomizes uh what spitzer can 1173 00:47:15,430 --> 00:47:13,200 do in the infrared and how you can just 1174 00:47:17,829 --> 00:47:15,440 dig into that data and see the star 1175 00:47:20,150 --> 00:47:17,839 forming regions see the see the regions 1176 00:47:22,549 --> 00:47:20,160 where the stars are also dying by sort 1177 00:47:23,910 --> 00:47:22,559 of just changing the wavelengths that 1178 00:47:26,230 --> 00:47:23,920 you're looking at and stretching the 1179 00:47:27,510 --> 00:47:26,240 colors a little bit it's just it's just 1180 00:47:29,910 --> 00:47:27,520 the classic 1181 00:47:31,670 --> 00:47:29,920 spitzer image in my mind and the galaxy 1182 00:47:32,790 --> 00:47:31,680 pictures are just so beautiful i love 1183 00:47:34,790 --> 00:47:32,800 the crab 1184 00:47:37,910 --> 00:47:34,800 nebula and there's just so many 1185 00:47:39,990 --> 00:47:37,920 beautiful ones to go online and research 1186 00:47:42,790 --> 00:47:40,000 and look up and i hope that everyone's 1187 00:47:44,309 --> 00:47:42,800 love for spitzer will get reignited and 1188 00:47:46,069 --> 00:47:44,319 they'll be able to go out and do a lot 1189 00:47:48,150 --> 00:47:46,079 of research on their own thank you so 1190 00:47:51,109 --> 00:47:48,160 much all of you for being here and paul 1191 00:47:53,750 --> 00:47:51,119 back in headquarters and we are going to 1192 00:47:56,230 --> 00:47:53,760 end our show now spitzer is not that far 1193 00:47:58,950 --> 00:47:56,240 away from us in relation to the cosmos 1194 00:48:01,990 --> 00:47:58,960 as a whole but it has managed to unlock 1195 00:48:04,870 --> 00:48:02,000 secrets within our own solar system plus 1196 00:48:06,870 --> 00:48:04,880 galaxies and nebulas that are millions 1197 00:48:09,910 --> 00:48:06,880 of light years away spitzer will 1198 00:48:12,790 --> 00:48:09,920 continue to impact us on our future 1199 00:48:15,270 --> 00:48:12,800 quest for knowledge for more information 1200 00:48:19,430 --> 00:48:15,280 on the spitzer space telescope please go 1201 00:48:23,990 --> 00:48:21,910 spitzer thank you so much for joining us 1202 00:48:27,190 --> 00:48:24,000 today we will leave you with a look at 1203 00:48:43,500 --> 00:48:27,200 the numerous breathtaking images from 1204 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